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PostSubject: Re: Trash Talk Case 003   2014-06-14, 15:19

This is my only concern right now.

The fact that there are pvp zones in the game, should be self-explanatory.

Altho i see players who do not actually spend time in the game, old players who have returned and new players, get the idea that me and my team mates , are a bad thing for the game, by using the pvp to the full potential(without creating known exceptions in the game client/server), be it camping zones, attempting to do skirmish moments or just taking uncontested rewards.

This game has a persistent map with pvp-zones, which create the opportunity for zone control 24/7 if there are enough players with different timezones, there are rewards to be taken in the pvp-zones and the players have little control over the frequency that said rewards are available.
I understand that it would be better for everyone if we could share the rewards evenly through all the game population, but it only works with a small number of players or until greed arise. But in a positive future, when the game has a bigger playerbase, this would simply not be possible anymore.

(Questions for players)
So why are you "allowing" to promote the idea, that controlling a specific pvp zone even if its 24/7(without creating known exceptions in the game client/server) , is bad for the game.
Why is there a majority of players currently active in the game, vouching for this idea and helping every new player feel bad in the game because of this zone control, instead of explaining to them the world mechanics? and all other game mechanics including pvp and society "warfare/alliance".

Another small point in the same context is that, it would probably be better if forum moderators do not take part of the arguments with the same forum account as they use to deliver "forum moderator" posts/actions and having drama related conversations in the Irc main channel, i do feel that both of these do help inactive players and new players to get the wrong idea.

Appreciate the time!

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PostSubject: Re: Trash Talk Case 003   2014-06-14, 22:24

Nahual wrote:
see post above^^

Would be cool if i could make you understand why most people not like some people in your team.
But the lack of common sense and difference in vision creates a big gap between your team and the rest of the community.

All the community members that have played the game until now had no wars or verbal conflicts, until Goats arrived and started to press their vision on the game.

As soon the game is fully functional me and others will be more than happy to engage in a all out war with you guys but for now their is simply no room for such non-sense.

About your other small point regarding moderation, I am a player when i respond with my Tesla Coil account, when i do actions as "admin" i do so as admin not as Tesla Coil.

The only ones who are causing wrong idea's are the ones speaking out loud as if they where around for the last few years when they just came to take a look around the corner.

Must say this all applies for only a few of you and not all of you, most of you are fine people who going to become victim of their own team if this drama continues.
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PostSubject: Re: Trash Talk Case 003   2014-06-14, 22:38

I think i understand why most people not like some people in my team and the same lack of vision might be perceived from this other side.

The fact that you are splitting the "team" with the rest , is implying more than you realize and its not true.
You are also speaking for all the community members that have played the game until now, that is also a bottomless statement.
Please measure the words you use.

I apologize for not being clear in with the small point, what i wanted to convey was the fact that with the Account Tesla you state that you are the admin and at the same time you state you are the voice of the rest of the community and at the same time you state your own personal concerns and judgement about others. The same happens ingame, but not often, and that is all im trying to raise with this. If possible do not mix things, do not state you are the oldest player and friends with the devs when in the next second you will be trying to show everyone that my team is wrong, that is not being neutral and community oriented. That is simply wrong and im not saying this against you, but merely trying to show you of things you do not seem to be self-aware.

If you want suggestions, your time could be spent in explaining the new players how free you are in the game, and how you can choose any side or no side at all, or actually being "fake neutral" or anything the player comes up with, he has the chance to change the Story/Objects and every other interaction in-game instead of focusing too much on what you think is right or wrong.


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PostSubject: Re: Trash Talk Case 003   2014-06-14, 22:50

Nahual wrote:
I think i understand why most people not like some people in my team and the same lack of vision might be perceived from this other side.

The fact that you are splitting the "team" with the rest , is implying more than you realize and its not true.
You are also speaking for all the community members that have played the game until now, that is also a bottomless statement.
Please measure the words you use.

I apologize for not being clear in with the small point, what i wanted to convey was the fact that with the Account Tesla you state that you are the admin and at the same time you state you are the voice of the rest of the community and at the same time you state your own personal concerns and judgement about others. The same happens ingame, but not often, and that is all im trying to raise with this. If possible do not mix things, do not state you are the oldest player and friends with the devs when in the next second you will be trying to show everyone that my team is wrong, that is not being neutral and community oriented. That is simply wrong and im not saying this against you, but merely trying to show you of things you do not seem to be self-aware.

If you want suggestions, your time could be spent in explaining the new players how free you are in the game, and how you can choose any side or no side at all, or actually being "fake neutral" or anything the player comes up with, he has the chance to change the Story/Objects and every other interaction in-game instead of focusing too much on what you think is right or wrong.


Mark your words from now on m8,
I have little energy for another Tree kinda reply.

*Where i split the "team" with the rest, than except as i took it as in the form of your own post?
*Where i state i speak for all community members that have played the game? (Read the sentence again!)
*Where i state i am the voice of the rest of the community?

And please not tell me how and what is neutral, i never signed a contract with anyone of you nor with the developers.
We are free, whatever you are doing, only all actions have consequences.

You are trying to tell me how to act as admin, since i am Tesla Coil?

Please read my words careful and next time you going to state things for me that i say while i clearly did not i wish you a very good time on your own forum in advance.
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PostSubject: Re: Trash Talk Case 003   2014-06-14, 23:05

"But the lack of common sense and difference in vision creates a big gap between your team and the rest of the community."

you are speaking for all the community? implying it at the very least.

I know its hard to read your own words and see the basic meaning on them, when there are so many layers of thought over that said meaning.


You can rage all that you want and remove me from the forum, i just pointed out what is obvious to me and apparently not you.
I'm not here to create a war of forums, you can have it.

I would appreciate less threats aswell.  lol! 

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PostSubject: Re: Trash Talk Case 003   2014-06-14, 23:21

Nahual wrote:
"But the lack of common sense and difference in vision creates a big gap between your team and the rest of the community."

you are speaking for all the community? implying it at the very least.

I know its hard to read your own words and see the basic meaning on them, when there are so many layers of thought over that said meaning.


You can rage all that you want and remove me from the forum, i just pointed out what is obvious to me and apparently not you.
I'm not here to create a war of forums, you can have it.

I would appreciate less threats aswell.  lol! 

The gap i see is a simple observation from the last few months. Sorry to say but facts are facts.

Funny you take only 1 point and think that you are ready after. LoL
And i not remove you from the forum, i simply say have fun on your own forum since you think you know it all better.

Think Goats would do great with their own forum.
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PostSubject: Re: Trash Talk Case 003   2014-06-14, 23:35

"why most people not like some people in your team. "
*Where i split the "team" with the rest, than except as i took it as in the form of your own post?
*Where i state i speak for all community members that have played the game? (Read the sentence again!)

But the lack of common sense and difference in vision creates a big gap between your team and the rest of the community.
All the community members that have played the game until now had no wars or verbal conflicts
*Where i state i speak for all community members that have played the game? (Read the sentence again!)
*Where i state i am the voice of the rest of the community?

i thought the first example i gave would suffice, but since you mention it, i repeated one last time.


"The gap i see is a simple observation from the last few months. Sorry to say but facts are facts."
The last few months you have played really few amount of hours, the observation you are having is only tiny fragments of what really happens, please have that in consideration when stating facts that are "facts".


If this is not the forum for the game, it could be advertised as such,

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PostSubject: Re: Trash Talk Case 003   2014-06-14, 23:47

Nahual wrote:
"why most people not like some people in your team. "
*Where i split the "team" with the rest, than except as i took it as in the form of your own post?
*Where i state i speak for all community members that have played the game? (Read the sentence again!)

But the lack of common sense and difference in vision creates a big gap between your team and the rest of the community.
All the community members that have played the game until now had no wars or verbal conflicts
*Where i state i speak for all community members that have played the game? (Read the sentence again!)
*Where i state i am the voice of the rest of the community?

i thought the first example i gave would suffice, but since you mention it, i repeated one last time.


"The gap i see is a simple observation from the last few months. Sorry to say but facts are facts."
The last few months you have played really few amount of hours, the observation you are having is only tiny fragments of what really happens, please have that in consideration when stating facts that are "facts".


If this is not the forum for the game, it could be advertised as such,

Sorry, now i lost you, this makes no sense at all to me.

To be clear, their was never a war nor verbal conflicts until the shit started with Goats. That is a fact!

Let me quote your first post again and leave in what caused this discussion and where you clearly state the problem yourself.

Nahual wrote:
This is my only concern right now.

The fact that there are pvp zones in the game, should be self-explanatory.

Altho i see players who do not actually spend time in the game, old players who have returned and new players, get the idea that me and my team mates , are a bad thing for the game, by using the pvp to the full potential

After you make a statement "If this is not the forum for the game, it could be advertised as such, "

 lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Trash Talk Case 003   2014-06-14, 23:58

I think it makes no sense because more than 50% of it was actually written by you and i just tried to show you what it actually means.




"Altho i see players who do not actually spend time in the game, old players who have returned and new players, get the idea that me and my team mates , are a bad thing for the game, by using the pvp to the full potential"

After you make a statement "If this is not the forum for the game, it could be advertised as such, "


I'm sorry but i do not seem to understand the connection? It was a reply for "Think Goats would do great with their own forum."

I dont think this conversation was about whose society forum belong to, but that the forum is for the players and that giving them the wrong idea because of your personal opinions and the way you mix your forum admin and speak for all the community gives the wrong impression to everyone.
Just because you like to speak it louder and repeat it in many occasions, doesnt make it real or true.
Do you understand what i'm saying?  cyclops 


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PostSubject: Re: Trash Talk Case 003   2014-06-14, 23:58

Tesla Coil wrote:
Nahual wrote:
"why most people not like some people in your team. "
*Where i split the "team" with the rest, than except as i took it as in the form of your own post?
*Where i state i speak for all community members that have played the game? (Read the sentence again!)

But the lack of common sense and difference in vision creates a big gap between your team and the rest of the community.
All the community members that have played the game until now had no wars or verbal conflicts
*Where i state i speak for all community members that have played the game? (Read the sentence again!)
*Where i state i am the voice of the rest of the community?


i thought the first example i gave would suffice, but since you mention it, i repeated one last time.


"The gap i see is a simple observation from the last few months. Sorry to say but facts are facts."
The last few months you have played really few amount of hours, the observation you are having is only tiny fragments of what really happens, please have that in consideration when stating facts that are "facts".


If this is not the forum for the game, it could be advertised as such,

Sorry, now i lost you, this makes no sense at all to me.

To be clear, their was never a war nor verbal conflicts until the shit started with Goats. That is a fact!

Let me quote your first post again and leave in what caused this discussion and where you clearly state the problem yourself.

Nahual wrote:
This is my only concern right now.

The fact that there are pvp zones in the game, should be self-explanatory.

Altho i see players who do not actually spend time in the game, old players who have returned and new players, get the idea that me and my team mates , are a bad thing for the game, by using the pvp to the full potential

After you make a statement "If this is not the forum for the game, it could be advertised as such, "

 lol!

you might as well have put your blablabla you do so well in the game, if youre not taking his concerns seriously

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PostSubject: Trash Talk Case 003   2014-06-15, 00:45

Nahual wrote:
I think it makes no sense because more than 50% of it was actually written by you and i just tried to show you what it actually means.




"Altho i see players who do not actually spend time in the game, old players who have returned and new players, get the idea that me and my team mates , are a bad thing for the game, by using the pvp to the full potential"

After you make a statement "If this is not the forum for the game, it could be advertised as such, "


I'm sorry but i do not seem to understand the connection? It was a reply for "Think Goats would do great with their own forum."

I dont think this conversation was about whose society forum belong to, but that the forum is for the players and that giving them the wrong idea because of your personal opinions and the way you mix your forum admin and speak for all the community gives the wrong impression to everyone.
Just because you like to speak it louder and repeat it in many occasions, doesnt make it real or true.
Do you understand what i'm saying?  cyclops 


Again you not answered my questions.
You just start twist my answers and statements with every reply that comes.

You just another troll it seems.

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